I havn't been a big fan of fighting games since Tekken 2, they just got boring to me. with VF4 thou I became a fan all over again. At first macking your own player seemed a wast of time. I mean you get another pair of shoes or hat give me a brake, but after playing Kumate and VS modes I whant those shoes and that hat. As for the people that don't like single player mode try the Kumate it will have you playing for hrs. the learing curve for this game is great you can pick up the joystick and pull off some veryu cool looking moves, and there are so many moves for each character that you can play this game for months and still not be able to everything. For all you button mashers out there you'll be able to get by agaist most people but when you come up aginst someone who know that they are doing all I can say is reversal.